The Dragonlance Nexus

Printed From:
http://www.dlnexus.com/products/review/277.aspx

Reviews of 'Heroes of Hope'

Heroes of Hope

by Steve Miller, Duane Maxwell, Sue Weinlein Cook
Fifth Age, Volume 8


Reviews of 'Heroes of Hope'

Here are the visitor reviews we have of Heroes of Hope. For more information about this title, please visit the item detail page.


Reviewer: Morten Brattbakk

Rating: Stars

Reviewer's Note: (Beware of some spoilers for the adventure):

Well, there is this box with a Jeff Easley painting that is neither terrible nor good, and it has 2 books (Book 1, a sourcebook, and Book 2, an adventure.) and a map, covering the Plains of Dust, Dimernost, Silvanesti and parts of Khur and the Desolation.

Let me start with Book 1.

Prologue: Has a few theories on how mysticism works. It would be perfect to make the debate we had on the nature of magic even more confusing. No straight answers are given.

Chapter 1: These are roles connected to mysticism. There are some standards like Knights of Sword, Rose and Skull, barbarian and Kagonesti shamans and some rather interesting ones like the kender nightstalker (a kender with connections to the dead) and the monks. The section on the monks actually describes the priesthood of Majere much better than any 4th Age product I have ever seen. Overall, the roles are OK, but there is one drawback: Most of them don't have any real disadvantages. Often, they are given the easy way out by having the disadvantage of non-trump on Presence actions. This is rather munchkin, I'd say, since Presence actions are seldom used, and this is like having an AD&D kit with a +5 in strength and a -2 in Charisma. everybody picks it since the +5 means a lot, while the -2 don't.

The chapter has some pages listing the true gods and the names they have in the different Ansalonian cultures. I have a few gripes here: Among the true gods are listed High God, Chaos and Artha (a demigod from the DLE series, who died there.) These three are not part of Krynn's strict pantheon (Chaos may not even be a god), and so they should have been excluded. There was also a little mistake on the other names of the gods, Zebir Jotun, as according to Tales of the Lance Zeboim is called among the Ice Barbarians, now has become Zebyr Jotun. And while a list of which names the gods have in the different corners of Palanthas, I still wonder: Where is Paladine called Paladine? Where is Zeboim called Zeboim? There is no mention of that.

Chapter 2, about mystic groups, lists the mystic aspects of the Knights of Solamnia, Knights of Takhisis and Legion of Steel. It details how the mystic training is connected within the groups, and explains more about the Vision of the Knights of Takhisiss, and their test of loyalty and their Inquisition. The Citadel of Light is also mentioned here (but it is explained much more thoroughly in "Citadel of Light", of course), and there is an interesting entry on how the Holy Order of the Stars copes now that the gods are gone. In addition, there are sidebars with short descriptions of the whole order of each god. What I don't like here is the mention of the gods of magic having holy orders, which in my opinion are bad leftovers from Tales of the Lance.

These entries are OK, but works best when used together with Heroes of Steel (for the Knighthoods), and Citadel of Light (for the Citadel of Light organization.)

Chapter 3 briefly describes 3 land areas: Khur, Dimernesti, and Port Balifor. Khur was previously described rather good in DL15, in a short adventure therein called "The Riders of Khur", and Heroes of Hope is, for the most part, consistent with DL15, updating the history of Khur. But Heroes of Hope claims that the Khur have never known the true gods, which can't be true since in DL15 the god Sirrion is present in a tribal ceremony. (But this might also be a mistake since DL 15 takes place before the War of the Lance, before the gods returned; but it still indicates the Khur were familiar with some gods.) Unfortunately, Heroes of Hope completely ignores the intriguing gypsy-like culture and feel DL15 gave the Khur, replacing it instead with the DL standard nomadic barbarians. This was sad, I think, as a more exotic and special culture is needed on Ansalon, and this was the perfect opportunity to develop one.

Dimernost is OK described, as is Port Balifor, on how it is after the coming of Malys. My main gripe about this chapter is that the descriptions are way too short, only a few pages each. The sections on Khur and Dimernost do tie into the adventure in Book 2 which fleshes those areas out a little, but we are still a long, long way from HoD's treatment of Northern Ergoth, not to mention if there were a Herald's Lorebook's dedicated to these areas. (especially Khur, with a gypsy-esque culture. I would love such a book.) Dimernost, however, is rather detailed if you use Books 1 and 2 of Heroes of Hope together with the Dimernesti article in Dragon magazine #250.

Chapter 4 is optional mysticism rules, with some word on how creating hybrid spells (spells using both sorcery and mysticism), and it fleshes out the different mysticism spheres. It also has a couple of pages on how the optional sorcery rules in Heroes of Sorcery apply to mysticism. While this chapter do give more ideas about mysticism and the spheres than the 5th Age box, it is, IMO, not precise enough. The chapter ends with a rather good part; rules and tips for playing Kagonesti heroes, and a little bit on their history and culture.

At last in the book there are some pages of NPCs, all of them with some mystic power. They are mostly boring and uninteresting characters, except for the two bad guys (Knights of Takhisis), especially the female half-elf from Silvanesti has some great potential.

Book 2 is the adventure, The Crown and the Serpent. It takes the players from Solace (yeah, seems like every 5th Age product has to feature Solace) through Schallsea and the Plains of Dust to Khur and to Dimernost. This adventure actually does have some interesting descriptions and story ideas to develop. But those that I find interesting are only briefly mentioned. The adventure is very linear, with characters being sent from one location/situation to the other. In each "Scene", as the situations are called, heroes are expected to handle a problem. In just about every case, exactly how that problem is handled is set in advance, and the players have to figure out exactly what, then move on to the next scene. (For example, the heroes can kill Brynseldimer in this adventure, but apparently only if they do it like it says in the adventure.) There are hardly any scenes which can be played in a different order than what is previously set. It doesn't help that a single small page is devoted to an alternate route through the Plains of Dust (which would mostly be rehashes of the already written scenes, except the names are changed.) This adventure isn't leading players by the nose. It is grabbing their noses, pulling them in one direction without even giving them the opportunity to look any other way.

The map is OK, perhaps a bit too big-scale with not enough details, and with 3 rather bad pictures depicting events in the adventure made by Easley when he apparently was in a hurry.

So overall, this boxed set is pretty average. It does not handle mysticism and mystic roles nearly as well as Heroes of Sorcery did with sorcery and sorcerers. And it does not handle Khur, Dimernost and Port Balifor nearly as well as Heroes of Defiance handled Northern Ergoth.

So, overall, in usefulness and such, I would rate this box below Citadel of Light, Heroes of Sorcery and Heroes of Defiance, but above Heroes of Steel, Wings of Fury and The Last Tower. It is quite useful for use of mysticism and playing mystic (as well as Kagonesti) heroes (and it has some cool ideas about mysticism and mysticism roles, some of which are detailed further in Citadel of Light), and might be useful if you need general, (very general), guidelines for Khur, Dimernost, Port Balifor or the Plains of Dust, but it does not succeed in making neither mystic rules nor area descriptions as interesting and comprehensive as they could (and should) be.

Oh, yeah, and unlike Heroes of Defiance, Heroes of Hope is most certainly something than those who play AD&D in 4th Age would not find any useful at all.


The views and opinions expressed in the reviews shown here are those of the reviewer(s) listed and do not necessarily reflect the ideas or opinions of the Dragonlance Nexus.

The Dragonlance Nexus does not publish any of the products listed in the Products section. While every effort has been made to ensure that the information presented is accurate, we cannot guarantee the accuracy of any listing. The Nexus is a member of the Associates program of Amazon.com and its international sites. Graphics are representational only.